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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jul 2, 2024 8:10:18 GMT -6
I believe yesterday's hi of 80 was a record low high. I feel July will be tough to get 100 degree heat as I am hopeful that the pattern looks very active which while very humid will keep temps in check with clouds and rain and tropical moisture. I always feel if we get through July we are on the downward slope as I personally have never felt august heat is as bad simply because it tends to dry out a bit. But we will see. I know locally we need rain but we do not need the.flooding on the rivers. You seem to have forgotten last August when we had several days of temps over 100° and dew points around 80° Thats was easily the most oppressive conditions I can remember around here
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Post by ajd446 on Jul 2, 2024 8:14:30 GMT -6
I guess it was, I guess I'm just used too it. I know the more I work in it the easier it is.
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Post by Snowman99 on Jul 2, 2024 8:18:05 GMT -6
Lol Burn it all down.
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Post by ajd446 on Jul 2, 2024 8:19:00 GMT -6
Discussion page 16 from nws said record low hi was 80 from 1991 yesterday
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Post by REB on Jul 2, 2024 8:33:54 GMT -6
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Post by John G -west belleville on Jul 2, 2024 8:36:12 GMT -6
Discussion page 16 from nws said record low hi was 80 from 1991 yesterday Record high low and record low high are 2 different benchmarks
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Post by ajd446 on Jul 2, 2024 8:41:02 GMT -6
Yes NWS on bottom of page 16 In discussion has record min max meaning coolest high is 80 for July first in 1991, which would of meant we tied it yesterday.
Unless I am reading it wrong, I read these discussions like the bible lol
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Post by John G -west belleville on Jul 2, 2024 10:13:27 GMT -6
Yes NWS on bottom of page 16 In discussion has record min max meaning coolest high is 80 for July first in 1991, which would of meant we tied it yesterday. Unless I am reading it wrong, I read these discussions like the bible lol Looks like the discussion author made an error. Here is a screenshot of the record document from their website. My apologies.
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Post by ajd446 on Jul 2, 2024 10:24:06 GMT -6
Thank you very much for the clarification!
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Jul 2, 2024 16:57:08 GMT -6
The pattern that models are showing later next week is what I was expecting this summer with the ridge setting up across the Great Basin and deep troffing across the E 1/2 of the US. It would be great if that longwave pattern got locked in...although it's not particularly rainy it's definitely cooler.
Models have several chances for soaking storms the next few days...sure hope that holds up. The LLJ really ramps up tomorrow night with strong convergence roughly along 70 which could support training thunderstorms along the wavy boundary.
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Post by STGOutdoors on Jul 2, 2024 17:25:53 GMT -6
I believe yesterday's hi of 80 was a record low high. I feel July will be tough to get 100 degree heat as I am hopeful that the pattern looks very active which while very humid will keep temps in check with clouds and rain and tropical moisture. I always feel if we get through July we are on the downward slope as I personally have never felt august heat is as bad simply because it tends to dry out a bit. But we will see. I know locally we need rain but we do not need the.flooding on the rivers. You seem to have forgotten last August when we had several days of temps over 100° and dew points around 80° Thats was easily the most oppressive conditions I can remember around here That was hell on earth. I’ll take peak 2012 over that week. What were the dates of that? I thought it was later in august when we should have been almost done with the bad stuff.
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Post by sgdragons on Jul 2, 2024 18:14:41 GMT -6
You seem to have forgotten last August when we had several days of temps over 100° and dew points around 80° Thats was easily the most oppressive conditions I can remember around here That was hell on earth. I’ll take peak 2012 over that week. What were the dates of that? I thought it was later in august when we should have been almost done with the bad stuff. Mid August. All of the local football games(first week) got pushed back to a start time of 8pm, or moved to Saturday AM.
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Post by yypc on Jul 2, 2024 18:40:49 GMT -6
Yeah 100/80 dew is about as bad as it gets here. Between 115 and 120 heat index. Hoping to not repeat that pattern.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Jul 2, 2024 19:33:46 GMT -6
My station recorded a peak heat index of 129*...probably reading a bit high but yeah, last August was easily the most oppressive heat and humidity I've ever experienced and it was days straight of it.
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Post by Chris Higgins on Jul 2, 2024 20:42:12 GMT -6
My station recorded a peak heat index of 129*...probably reading a bit high but yeah, last August was easily the most oppressive heat and humidity I've ever experienced and it was days straight of it. I have tried to put last August out of my memory. It was gross x 10!
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Jul 2, 2024 21:13:55 GMT -6
The thing about heat waves in late August and into September is that they are often lower humidity events. Key word "often", but not always. It's remarkable enough in my mind that if I had to choose when to experience 100 degree weather, I'd prefer that time period over July. Given our history of rainfall, the heat in July is likely to be more humid, IMO. That's all purely philosophical, though. I am looking for a bout of below normal temperatures in the 6 to 10 day period as the CPC suggests, but my gut says it won't be that cool and it may very well be short-lived. The heat intensity so far this year has been a bit surprising to me.
I'm still watching for the potential for excessive rainfall amounts over the next few days. I'm a little nervous after the experience, I believe was in 2022, where St. Charles County had 11 inches of rain in such a short time period. I remember waking up to the phone going off, and the rain being so intense...I think I just said to myself, well there's nothing I can do at this point. I consider it a miracle that nobody in my family experienced any basement flooding beyond just some wet spots. That was a crazy night. I don't want to experience that again. This 4th of July event does seem to present a little different in that we are going to get multiple chunks of heavy rain, instead of one collosal overnight event, but the pwats in previous model runs as brtn pointed out in excess of 2+ inches along the 70 corridor (I don't know if that has changed), does have me concerned. We shall see.
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Post by ComoEsJn on Jul 2, 2024 21:35:46 GMT -6
That July 2022 rain event was the first time feeling genuinely anxious about just pure rain (I was in St. Peters at the time in a rental condo). There was water seeping up into the living room through the slab foundation by morning.
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Post by Chris Higgins on Jul 2, 2024 23:40:14 GMT -6
Our in house model shows a multi-day total band of 6-8+ inches of rainfall stretched out along I-70 and the Missouri River over the next 3 days. Here is the smoothed version (takes out the jagged edges).. This is what I went with tonight...not quite as aggressive... but in the same general area...
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Jul 3, 2024 1:47:55 GMT -6
Flash flood watches in effect along I-70 to the wast of Montgomery City back to near KC already.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Jul 3, 2024 4:52:10 GMT -6
Flash flood watches in effect along I-70 to the wast of Montgomery City back to near KC already. Amazing how all that turns into light showers as it approaches MBY...but at least it's raining
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Post by ajd446 on Jul 3, 2024 5:00:47 GMT -6
These are very efficient downpours in St.Charles county
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Jul 3, 2024 5:10:07 GMT -6
Flash flood watches in effect along I-70 to the wast of Montgomery City back to near KC already. Amazing how all that turns into light showers as it approaches MBY...but at least it's raining Looks like you'll have a lot more opportunities for the next few hours.
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Post by sgdragons on Jul 3, 2024 5:15:21 GMT -6
0.0
Guess I’ll water the plants this morning.
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Post by ajd446 on Jul 3, 2024 5:48:15 GMT -6
1.97 and counting. I was not expecting this kind of rain this morning along 70
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Jul 3, 2024 5:54:30 GMT -6
1.97 and counting. I was not expecting this kind of rain this morning along 70 Must be nice...we had 0.07"
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Post by ilnois on Jul 3, 2024 5:56:10 GMT -6
1.97 and counting. I was not expecting this kind of rain this morning along 70 Must be nice...we had 0.07" Wasted on the rocks in Missouri.
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Post by Chris Higgins on Jul 3, 2024 6:03:00 GMT -6
2.07 and counting in Chesterfield overlooking the Valley.
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Post by REB on Jul 3, 2024 6:09:36 GMT -6
.02" here.
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Post by Snowman99 on Jul 3, 2024 6:10:14 GMT -6
1.11 so far
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Post by Snowman99 on Jul 3, 2024 6:39:11 GMT -6
ffw for franklin, st louis, gasconade, and st charles
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