modracer
Weather Intern
MASCOUTAH, Illinois
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Post by modracer on Jun 26, 2022 10:27:13 GMT -6
Get yourself a Jack Russell terrier, greatfor eliminating moles. Jealous of the lightning to the NW. Never thought I’d say I wish it would rain… On a good note, I finally got the mole today that’s been destroying the front field. |
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Jun 26, 2022 10:35:10 GMT -6
Getting skirted by those showers to the south but the garden is wet and the rain barrel overflowing...can't complain
Looks like a camping trip is in order with the cool weather.
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Post by dschreib on Jun 26, 2022 10:58:40 GMT -6
Get yourself a Jack Russell terrier, greatfor eliminating moles. Jealous of the lightning to the NW. Never thought I’d say I wish it would rain… On a good note, I finally got the mole today that’s been destroying the front field. 4 acres—it’s a tough task, especially when the neighbors till the fields. |
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Post by Jeffmw on Jun 26, 2022 11:51:06 GMT -6
Knowing the storms were not severe was able to sleep through them the sound of the storm and rain made sleeping easier.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jun 26, 2022 13:56:40 GMT -6
75° sunny, tolerable humidity, and a nice breeze
Amazing weather outside
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Jeke
Junior Forecaster
Old Jamestown, MO
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Post by Jeke on Jun 26, 2022 14:04:01 GMT -6
Jealous of the lightning to the NW. Never thought I’d say I wish it would rain… On a good note, I finally got the mole today that’s been destroying the front field. Congratulations on the mole. Worst ever this year here and have failed to get just one. Weird behavior with them wanting to get up next to pavement, curbs, etc. then push the ground up along side for long tracks. Can't really set the EasySet trap with the scissors perpendicular to concrete. Yes, I use the EasySet by WireTek, also. Have have had 3 of them for years. Good luck to get more! |
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Post by birddog on Jun 26, 2022 18:15:07 GMT -6
Getting skirted by those showers to the south but the garden is wet and the rain barrel overflowing...can't complain Looks like a camping trip is in order with the cool weather. Been awhile since I have been on here. Just dropped in to share that we are extremely dry up here. Did manage 2 tenths last night, last Friday's wind event gave us .06". All total so far for the month of June 1.61" Thankful for the rain we got last night it filled the rain barrels, so the garden continues. |
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Post by amstilost on Jun 26, 2022 23:49:54 GMT -6
Here is the cumulus cloud from yesterday at 5:25pm. Looking south southeast. I had more to my west and thought it would rain for sure...  |
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Post by dschreib on Jun 27, 2022 7:48:33 GMT -6
Jealous of the lightning to the NW. Never thought I’d say I wish it would rain… On a good note, I finally got the mole today that’s been destroying the front field. Congratulations on the mole. Worst ever this year here and have failed to get just one. Weird behavior with them wanting to get up next to pavement, curbs, etc. then push the ground up along side for long tracks. Can't really set the EasySet trap with the scissors perpendicular to concrete. Yes, I use the EasySet by WireTek, also. Have have had 3 of them for years. Good luck to get more! Thanks. I have about an acre planted in grass, and the other 3 are just "whatever grows"--hence the front field/back field references. It's a challenge sometimes, but as long as I can find an active run, I can usually get them in a day or two. And no bueno with them digging next to the pavement... We can coexist if they're digging out in the field. As soon as they get into the grassy areas, I turn into Carl Spackler.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Jun 27, 2022 10:16:20 GMT -6
The moles are evolving...
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Jun 27, 2022 12:05:56 GMT -6
Here is the cumulus cloud from yesterday at 5:25pm. Looking south southeast. I had more to my west and thought it would rain for sure... That's a heckuva' garden. |
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Post by John G -west belleville on Jun 28, 2022 9:46:37 GMT -6
Anyone have any ideas on FROPA for Fri/Sat timeframe? We are going to Holiday World. STL office is saying stall out or slightly south. The Pad and Louisville offices are pushing it into and through their areas, and potentially impacting our Saturday plans.
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Post by amstilost on Jun 28, 2022 15:09:10 GMT -6
Here is the cumulus cloud from yesterday at 5:25pm. Looking south southeast. I had more to my west and thought it would rain for sure... That's a heckuva' garden. I have a few more pics....was waiting for the right moment, like a comment.  It has definitely been labor intensive starting from scratch in 2019. The wife keeps saying "it will be easier next year" for 3 years now.  |
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Post by amstilost on Jun 28, 2022 15:15:58 GMT -6
 This is the new section added this year. Sweet potatoes nearest with asparagus to the left of them. 8 jalapeno and yellow wax pepper plants, some hidden by the asparagus. watermelon, then 2 rows of corn. Yukon, purple and russet potatoes closest to the electric fence. The potatoes were harvested last night. |
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Post by amstilost on Jun 28, 2022 15:23:57 GMT -6
 First row on the right is tomatoes on both sides of the cattle panels. Amish, cherry, and homestead. Sweet peas were already harvested from half the first row also. Second row is tomatoes on oneside of cattle panels and bell peppers on the other. Sunflowers also. 3rd row is kale, red chard, some beets and the cucumbers that are blocking the them from sight. |
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Post by amstilost on Jun 29, 2022 11:49:52 GMT -6
we have had a big problem with ants chewing the roots of most everything this year. If it isn't one thing it is another. It's a wonder the human race survived before pesticides. We will not use commercial ones. Just the concoctions the wife finds using household stuff. Is there still a decent shot at rain this weekend? The NWS forecast doesn't look to jazzed about it. Only 50% chances.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Jun 29, 2022 11:56:39 GMT -6
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Jun 29, 2022 13:10:22 GMT -6
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Post by toddatfarmington on Jun 29, 2022 13:28:44 GMT -6
www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/The CPC outlook, as far as moisture anyway, has certainly improved over the next 30 days. Still not great, but better.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Jun 29, 2022 19:22:21 GMT -6
H. E. Double Hockey Sticks getting quite close on the 18Z GFS. Then again despite the 'upgrades' the GFS has been very flip floppy lately.
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Post by Lovableweatherguy TROY,MO on Jun 29, 2022 20:20:04 GMT -6
Lol
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jun 30, 2022 8:25:58 GMT -6
Definitely entering an active pattern with the MCS train firing up. Hoping our firework show Saturday night doesn’t get rained out.  |
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Post by bdgwx on Jun 30, 2022 9:07:53 GMT -6
The latest drought map has some of our area entering into a mild drought. Meanwhile the drought in the southwest is brutal. It has been going on now for about 20 years. Drought reconstructions have a large envelope of uncertainty but they are all consistent with the fact that you have to go back several hundred years to find a comparable event. And some of the more modern studies are suggesting the current drought could be worst in terms of magnitude in at least 1200 years. In terms of duration, however, we aren't even close to the megadroughts that persisted for decades between 800-1300 AD. That's not very comforting though since it suggests droughts in the region can last much longer than 20 years. As of June 30th the Lake Mead Reservoir shattered the previous record low on this date by 25 feet set all the way back in 2021. The reservoir sits at its all time low of 1043 feet. That is well below "active pool" of 1050 feet though Hoover Dam is still producing power just at reduced capacity. There is some talk of diverting some of the Mississippi River to the desert southwest. The proposals so far don't have much traction, but if the drought continues for another decade it wouldn't surprise me if they are taken more seriously.  |
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Post by STGOutdoors on Jun 30, 2022 14:18:51 GMT -6
The latest drought map has some of our area entering into a mild drought. Meanwhile the drought in the southwest is brutal. It has been going on now for about 20 years. Drought reconstructions have a large envelope of uncertainty but they are all consistent with the fact that you have to go back several hundred years to find a comparable event. And some of the more modern studies are suggesting the current drought could be worst in terms of magnitude in at least 1200 years. In terms of duration, however, we aren't even close to the megadroughts that persisted for decades between 800-1300 AD. That's not very comforting though since it suggests droughts in the region can last much longer than 20 years. As of June 30th the Lake Mead Reservoir shattered the previous record low on this date by 25 feet set all the way back in 2021. The reservoir sits at its all time low of 1043 feet. That is well below "active pool" of 1050 feet though Hoover Dam is still producing power just at reduced capacity. There is some talk of diverting some of the Mississippi River to the desert southwest. The proposals so far don't have much traction, but if the drought continues for another decade it wouldn't surprise me if they are taken more seriously. We are on this earth for such a short time that we sometimes forget how much worse it has been even in the last couple thousand years. Can you imagine that now? Many theories (including mine) point to that period of drought bringing the Cahokian civilization down. The very thing that made it such a massive city for its time - agriculture - likely came to a crashing halt. I would theorize that explains the mass sacrifice graves at certain times as well. It is also likely that the Ozarks looked more like the Texas Hill country back in the Mid Archaic times (4000-6000 B.C.) as well. Just things to think about. I'm glad we are at the confluence of 3 massive rivers. |
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Post by cozpregon on Jun 30, 2022 17:10:27 GMT -6
As the front makes it way into our area late afternoon/ evening tomorrow - soundings have a severe look chance. Wet bulb zero is a bit low for the time of year with very dry mid levels for a low end severe hail chance and that dry mid level kicks up the DCapes into the 1300-1400 range
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Post by toddatfarmington on Jul 1, 2022 7:10:18 GMT -6
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Post by dschreib on Jul 1, 2022 8:24:34 GMT -6
There is some talk of diverting some of the Mississippi River to the desert southwest. The proposals so far don't have much traction, but if the drought continues for another decade it wouldn't surprise me if they are taken more seriously. It's like we haven't learned our lesson from building levees to control where the rivers go... |
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Post by WEAXWATCHER on Jul 1, 2022 9:22:43 GMT -6
There is some talk of diverting some of the Mississippi River to the desert southwest. The proposals so far don't have much traction, but if the drought continues for another decade it wouldn't surprise me if they are taken more seriously. It's like we haven't learned our lesson from building levees to control where the rivers go... All in the name of "Urban Sprawl" |
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Post by John G -west belleville on Jul 1, 2022 9:53:42 GMT -6
Millstadt fireworks cancelled due to supply chain issues. That's our go to display. Bummer.
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Post by bdgwx on Jul 1, 2022 11:23:20 GMT -6
The latest drought map has some of our area entering into a mild drought. Meanwhile the drought in the southwest is brutal. It has been going on now for about 20 years. Drought reconstructions have a large envelope of uncertainty but they are all consistent with the fact that you have to go back several hundred years to find a comparable event. And some of the more modern studies are suggesting the current drought could be worst in terms of magnitude in at least 1200 years. In terms of duration, however, we aren't even close to the megadroughts that persisted for decades between 800-1300 AD. That's not very comforting though since it suggests droughts in the region can last much longer than 20 years. As of June 30th the Lake Mead Reservoir shattered the previous record low on this date by 25 feet set all the way back in 2021. The reservoir sits at its all time low of 1043 feet. That is well below "active pool" of 1050 feet though Hoover Dam is still producing power just at reduced capacity. There is some talk of diverting some of the Mississippi River to the desert southwest. The proposals so far don't have much traction, but if the drought continues for another decade it wouldn't surprise me if they are taken more seriously. We are on this earth for such a short time that we sometimes forget how much worse it has been even in the last couple thousand years. Can you imagine that now? Many theories (including mine) point to that period of drought bringing the Cahokian civilization down. The very thing that made it such a massive city for its time - agriculture - likely came to a crashing halt. I would theorize that explains the mass sacrifice graves at certain times as well. It is also likely that the Ozarks looked more like the Texas Hill country back in the Mid Archaic times (4000-6000 B.C.) as well. Just things to think about. I'm glad we are at the confluence of 3 massive rivers. As is usually the case there is rarely one cause. More often than not more than one cause contributes to the effect. But, yes, you are probably right in that drought played a role in the Cahokia collapse. Though there were probably other elements in play as well. The books Guns, Germs, and Steel and Collapse by Jared Diamond suggest that most civilization collapses occur coincident with mismanagement of resources especially water. It has been awhile since I've read the books but I seem to remember that the Cahokians were altering natural water channels and building their own canals and that this may have had unintended consequences when the prolonged droughts arrived in the 1200-1300 era. Their mound building was probably a questionable use of resources as well. I have no idea how long the current drought in the southwest will last. But one thing history tells us is that droughts in the area can last longer. The Anasazi, Hokokam, and other Native American cultures in the region, began collapsing likely in response to the megadrought circa 1200. It is noteworthy that the Hokokam were canal builders as well though that couldn't stop their fall. Water is clearly a very precious resource in the desert southwest. It also possible that the explosive population growth in the 1900's was coincident with unusually wet times giving people a false sense of water security. Maybe on centennial time scales dryer conditions are the norm. For now I'm not sure I'd call it a crisis just yet, but it's not far off if things don't change. Tapping the Mississippi River and transporting some of it to the area would be a megaproject of epic proportions, but it might be cheaper than the alternative of a mass migration of people. |
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