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Post by Snowman99 on Apr 7, 2020 9:27:11 GMT -6
south korea did the testing MUCH better than we did...counties that had good testing..far fewer deaths and cases.
I'm sure there will be plenty of people who think this is over in a week or 2 and start going out and go back to normal.
"Oooh the number of deaths and cases are down, let's have a party"
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Post by maddogchief on Apr 7, 2020 9:54:19 GMT -6
south korea did the testing MUCH better than we did...counties that had good testing..far fewer deaths and cases. I'm sure there will be plenty of people who think this is over in a week or 2 and start going out and go back to normal. "Oooh the number of deaths and cases are down, let's have a party" I read an article that South Koreans are required to download and install an app that tracks their locations. So, in the event of a pandemic, they are able to use the data to alert all those that the infected person came in contact with. Though it is effective, it is also something that Americans would not stand for. www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/tech/could-a-mobile-app-control-the-covid-19-pandemic-and-help-reopen-society.amp |
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Post by maddogchief on Apr 7, 2020 9:54:55 GMT -6
WSC, your mayor is an amazing person...completely tone deaf.
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Post by jeepers on Apr 7, 2020 10:05:43 GMT -6
Small country of 50 million people, small geographical area. And much faster, draconian social isolating, with phone tracking. It's like the difference between testing and tracking everyone in California and the entire country. Not saying that there aren't lessons to be learned from them, there are. We need to be more nimble, move faster. Be willing to shut down more quickly. We need to refill our national stockpile which hasn't been addressed well for 20 years. We need to move PPE and medication manufacturing to a geographical area that we can control. Be willing to pay more for the aforementioned and not just give our business to the lowest bidder. Control and trust is more important than price. And probably a 100 other things that I haven't thought of.
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Post by maddogchief on Apr 7, 2020 10:09:50 GMT -6
Speaking with my wife, one of the biggest reasons people aren’t completely following the guidelines is due to the nature of the virus. Not all persons show symptoms and not all symptoms are grotesque. Testing positive isn’t necessarily a death sentence, which adds to the general public’s hesitation to abide by the guidelines.
In other words, EVERYONE would be much more keen to the guidelines if you were bleeding out of your eyes and ears or had some kind of discharge coming out of an orifice or multiple orifices of your body.
Lastly, acts of public officials doing exactly what they have prohibited or discouraged only cement the thoughts of those that believe this is a conspiracy. The conspiracy theorists gain traction each time a public official is found disobeying their own guidelines.
Take the Alton mayor’s wife for example.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Apr 7, 2020 10:11:58 GMT -6
The stay at home order has undoubtedly saved many lives...heck, it almost surely saved lives during the Jonesboro tornado. But one thing that sticks out to me during this is that grocery and convenience stores have continued to stay very busy...if not not-so than usual. You have to think that those stores are a major vector for transmission and yet numbers are still relatively low(although definitely significant). I'm just not convinced that this is as virulent as it was said to be. Either that, or the vast majority of people who do contract it don't really even show symptoms. On the other hand, it's taking lives of even younger people who are seemingly otherwise healthy...they are calling this the "lung eater". So it's still a serious situation for sure considering it's eclipsed the H1N1 outbreak in 2009.
I also have to wonder if people being exposed to the SARS virus in 2012 may have helped with immunity towards COVID since they are both coronaviruses. I hope some study is done in that regard.
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Apr 7, 2020 10:14:37 GMT -6
WSC, your mayor is an amazing person...completely tone deaf. Right up there with the president |
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Post by maddogchief on Apr 7, 2020 10:16:10 GMT -6
Small country of 50 million people, small geographical area. And much faster, draconian social isolating, with phone tracking. It's like the difference between testing and tracking everyone in California and the entire country. Not saying that there aren't lessons to be learned from them, there are. We need to be more nimble, move faster. Be willing to shut down more quickly. We need to refill our national stockpile which hasn't been addressed well for 20 years. We need to move PPE and medication manufacturing to a geographical area that we can control. Be willing to pay more for the aforementioned and not just give our business to the lowest bidder. Control and trust is more important than price. And probably a 100 other things that I haven't thought of. Ah yes. The budgets from 2005 and on have been abysmal to domestic operations and emergency planning. The NSP hasn’t been replenished since like 2008 outside of shelf life items. All of the lessons learned from Katrina were essentially discarded over the last 13 years. Give or take. |
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Post by maddogchief on Apr 7, 2020 10:17:41 GMT -6
WSC, your mayor is an amazing person...completely tone deaf. Right up there with the president Can’t disagree there. In any skirmish, the last thing you do is give your enemy ammo. |
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Post by cozpregon on Apr 7, 2020 10:26:59 GMT -6
Yes!!!!! More covid talk. Everyone's an expert.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Apr 7, 2020 10:28:43 GMT -6
Small country of 50 million people, small geographical area. And much faster, draconian social isolating, with phone tracking. It's like the difference between testing and tracking everyone in California and the entire country. Not saying that there aren't lessons to be learned from them, there are. We need to be more nimble, move faster. Be willing to shut down more quickly. We need to refill our national stockpile which hasn't been addressed well for 20 years. We need to move PPE and medication manufacturing to a geographical area that we can control. Be willing to pay more for the aforementioned and not just give our business to the lowest bidder. Control and trust is more important than price. And probably a 100 other things that I haven't thought of. Ah yes. The budgets from 2005 and on have been abysmal to domestic operations and emergency planning. The NSP hasn’t been replenished since like 2008 outside of shelf life items. All of the lessons learned from Katrina were essentially discarded over the last 13 years. Give or take. Absolutely...anyone who is solely pinning blame on the Trump administration are awfully shortsighted and have a short or selective memory. Some of these issues go back several presidencies. |
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Post by Snowman99 on Apr 7, 2020 10:36:51 GMT -6
Yes!!!!! More covid talk. Everyone's an expert. what do you want us talk about, the exciting weather that's not happening? |
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Apr 7, 2020 10:58:19 GMT -6
Back to weather...still some questions about whether the cap will be broken or not this afternoon/evening. Storms could quickly go severe if they do. As for tomorrow, SPC has the metro and points SE in a SLGT risk, with mention of possible upgrade...could be pretty active along and ahead of the cold front with discrete supercells possible early on.
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Post by maddogchief on Apr 7, 2020 11:03:18 GMT -6
Back to weather...still some questions about whether the cap will be broken or not this afternoon/evening. Storms could quickly go severe if they do. As for tomorrow, SPC has the metro and points SE in a SLGT risk, with mention of possible upgrade...could be pretty active along and ahead of the cold front with discrete supercells possible early on. Been finding any shrooms? |
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Apr 7, 2020 11:12:54 GMT -6
Looks like models overestimated instability available this evening. That’s already becoming a theme early this severe season
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Post by STGOutdoors on Apr 7, 2020 11:22:46 GMT -6
Dang, sure hope the gfs is overdoing the cold early next week.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Apr 7, 2020 11:29:09 GMT -6
Back to weather...still some questions about whether the cap will be broken or not this afternoon/evening. Storms could quickly go severe if they do. As for tomorrow, SPC has the metro and points SE in a SLGT risk, with mention of possible upgrade...could be pretty active along and ahead of the cold front with discrete supercells possible early on. Been finding any shrooms? Haven't really been out locally. I did drive through Shawnee last thursday and found a few but it was still mostly too early yet. We need a warm rain for a good flush...it's getting pretty darn dry. The 50mph wind and low humidity last weekend really did a number on the soil moisture. |
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Post by maddogchief on Apr 7, 2020 11:40:45 GMT -6
Can I pretty please post the clown map from the Euro for next week? I think we all need it.
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Post by jeepers on Apr 7, 2020 11:57:57 GMT -6
17 years as an ICU nurse in a big city, high volume hospital system. If I were still working, I'd be at ground zero of this thing. Not an expert, and my stuff is a little dusty, but I'd say that this discussion is a lot more reasoned and intelligent than most of what I see in the media and on the web.
As to discussing it, the entire country has been shut down. Sort of tough to avoid the topic these days.
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Post by unclesam6 on Apr 7, 2020 12:00:27 GMT -6
17 years as an ICU nurse in a big city, high volume hospital system. If I were still working, I'd be at ground zero of this thing. Not an expert, and my stuff is a little dusty, but I'd say that this discussion is a lot more reasoned and intelligent than most of what I see in the media and on the web. As to discussing it, the entire country has been shut down. Sort of tough to avoid the topic these days. I also think being able to discuss it with a group that you "know" and trust can be helpful too... |
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Post by Snowman99 on Apr 7, 2020 12:03:20 GMT -6
Spc has expanded the slight risk for tomorrow for much of MO except the western quarter or so. Hatched risk for hail over the area as well
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Post by unclesam6 on Apr 7, 2020 12:56:18 GMT -6
euro is a little less nutty next week too. Still pretty cold tho.
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Post by yypc on Apr 7, 2020 13:24:34 GMT -6
Its disgusting out already. I am thinking about insulating and installing a mini split system in the garage to keep it cool in the summer. Does anyone have any experience with those good or bad?
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Apr 7, 2020 13:26:22 GMT -6
Naturally it gets close to mid Spring half way to Summer, than Winter suddenly shows up. Classic...
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Apr 7, 2020 13:27:40 GMT -6
Maybe it's the drop in pollution and carbon from the shutdowns of the pandemic... Obviously it probably isn't, but still. Just more fuel for the fact that 2020 is going to be a year that isn't soon forgotten.
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Post by demerson- Fletcher MO on Apr 7, 2020 13:32:03 GMT -6
It’s beautiful outside. I love this weather. Wish it would stay.
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Post by Snowman99 on Apr 7, 2020 13:48:16 GMT -6
eh..it's about 10 degrees to warm and the dp is 10 too high
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Post by mosue56 on Apr 7, 2020 13:56:36 GMT -6
The redbuds and magnolias are just gorgeous today!
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Apr 7, 2020 14:02:19 GMT -6
This weather would be great in mid-summer...in early April, it's a bit much.
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Post by REB on Apr 7, 2020 14:18:44 GMT -6
The pollen county is ridiculous.
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