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Post by landscaper on Jan 14, 2020 11:16:06 GMT -6
12z GEFS continues to look good for the metro area
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Post by mchafin on Jan 14, 2020 11:16:15 GMT -6
12z ukmet is like the nam. Misses most of the metro with frozen precipitation to the north, then warms up and brings rain How did the models perform with the last storm? UKMET was dead on? Euro was way off? GFS was? NAM was bad till right inside of the event? Just curious who won 1st, 2nd, 3rd on that last storm, and, is the setup favor one of the models in particular? Like...GFS does really great with retreating Arctic airmasses....UKMET not so much... |
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Post by unclesam6 on Jan 14, 2020 11:24:00 GMT -6
I'm just not looking forward to how wet and gloomy Friday will be. These types of systems are a bummer. You get a couple inches of snow and then you have to watch/listen to it melt for the rest of the day. I'd rather just have rain.
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Post by STGOutdoors on Jan 14, 2020 11:33:03 GMT -6
EPO continues to tank in D7-D14 Not so much with this morning's update. |
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jan 14, 2020 11:36:59 GMT -6
Its pretty strange were even getting any winter wx with how far north the low is going. This thing is acting more like a hybrid clipper than a mid latitude cyclone
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Post by unclesam6 on Jan 14, 2020 11:39:47 GMT -6
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Post by Frivolousz21 on Jan 14, 2020 11:57:52 GMT -6
Its pretty strange were even getting any winter wx with how far north the low is going. This thing is acting more like a hybrid clipper than a mid latitude cyclone Looks like there is phasing with Southern energy that comes out of the TROPICAL EASTERN PACIFIC OCEAN. this appears to help shunt winds from blow torching. Winds in the lower levels are out of the ESE on Friday until dusk when they flip SSW and we quickly warm up. There is a MASSIVE DRY AIR BLOB anchored over the metro and metro east. The ESE winds while not perpendicular to the WAA is not perfectly parallel. So the DAA is strong all day. The GFS only puts put 0.25" of qpf by 3pm. Which should be mostly snow mixed with sleet. The CHANGEOVER FROM SNOW to sleet to FREEZING RAIN will be abrupt. It's very likely we go from snow to FREEZING rain in an hour or less. The GFS holds us below freezing from like 3-8/9pm Friday while dropping 0.35" of precip. With strong SSW winds. I doubt that happens. This is a WEIRD SET UP. RIDGING IS WAY HIGH. |
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Post by STGOutdoors on Jan 14, 2020 12:05:03 GMT -6
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jan 14, 2020 12:08:41 GMT -6
Its pretty strange were even getting any winter wx with how far north the low is going. This thing is acting more like a hybrid clipper than a mid latitude cyclone Looks like there is phasing with Southern energy that comes out of the TROPICAL EASTERN PACIFIC OCEAN. this appears to help shunt winds from blow torching. Winds in the lower levels are out of the ESE on Friday until dusk when they flip SSW and we quickly warm up. There is a MASSIVE DRY AIR BLOB anchored over the metro and metro east. The ESE winds while not perpendicular to the WAA is not perfectly parallel. So the DAA is strong all day. The GFS only puts put 0.25" of qpf by 3pm. Which should be mostly snow mixed with sleet. The CHANGEOVER FROM SNOW to sleet to FREEZING RAIN will be abrupt. It's very likely we go from snow to FREEZING rain in an hour or less. The GFS holds us below freezing from like 3-8/9pm Friday while dropping 0.35" of precip. With strong SSW winds. I doubt that happens. This is a WEIRD SET UP. RIDGING IS WAY HIGH. The ridging was why I thought this was just a rain to cold setup a few days ago. Still could be |
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Post by weatherj on Jan 14, 2020 12:10:33 GMT -6
Its pretty strange were even getting any winter wx with how far north the low is going. This thing is acting more like a hybrid clipper than a mid latitude cyclone There was a storm several years back where the surface low was well NW of us and we got wintry precip from it. I agree it's quite a rare set up. |
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Post by unclesam6 on Jan 14, 2020 12:13:13 GMT -6
EURO off to space north.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jan 14, 2020 12:13:22 GMT -6
Euro misses us to the NW with any wintry precep
That agrees with the Ukie and NAM
Thats a pretty solid camp
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Post by Frivolousz21 on Jan 14, 2020 12:15:43 GMT -6
I work for the St. Louis Blues. So I am at every game.
A few things I noticed:
1. Back in the start of the season there was 2-3 games with some empty seats. Some as in like 1500 at most.
Since middle of November every game is d
Sold out. Not just on paper. LIKE THE ARENA IS FREAKING PACKED TO THE GILLS. BY 640PM THE SEATS ARE HALF FULL.
BY 7PM THEY ARE 80% FULL.
STANDING ROOM SECTIONS ARE BULGING AT THE SEEMS.
THIS IS EVERY GAME. REGARDLESS OF DAY OR OPPONENT. IT HAS NEVER BEEN LIKE THIS AND THIS IS IS WITH TICKET PRICES THAT ARE STUPIDLY EXPENSIVE.
EVERYGAME IS TREATED LIKE AN EVENT BY THE FANS AT THIS POINT.
PLAYOFF ATMOSPHERE LAST NIGHT. ATTENDING
STANDING OVATION WHEN WE KILLED OFF BACK TO BACK PENALTIES IN THE THIRD.
2. I am at every morning skate. Being honest in the mornings I clean the the glass with 4 other people. The blues want the glass cleaned everygame and waxed and buffed once a month.
3. We recently recieved new electronic dashers courtesy of the NHL they sent them to 3 franchises.
Boston
Stlouis
Washington
The blues are considering getting BRAND NEW plexiglass for the all Star game.
I pray they do. It would be noticible.
The only drawback is during the pre game and intermissions the concourse is straight wall to wall almost everywhere.
With a new TV contract, new concession contract and waiting list for season tickets.
The blues are cementing themselves to build a HIGH TECH ARENA IN THE 2030S.
THE GAMES ARE LOADED WITH FANS AGED 16-35.
THEY HAVE THE 20 SOMETHING MARKET CORNERED THANKS TO THE BACKES/OSHIE ERA.
THEY HAVE THE 35-44 YR OLD MARKET THANKS TO THE END OF THE HULL ERA AND PRONGER,TURGEON,MAC,KT,WEIGHT,DEMITRA ERA.
THEY HAVE THE 45-54 YR OLDS FROM THE FEDERKO TO HULL ERA.
THEY HAVE THE SENIOR CITIZENS FROM THE 3 STANLEY CUP APPEARENCES.
And now they are getting the children up today the first Stanley cup champions and soaking up that market as much as possible with continued elite success.
Trade Allen, sign Peitrangelo, buy out Steen, resign Bouwmeester for one year.
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Post by Frivolousz21 on Jan 14, 2020 12:17:43 GMT -6
The Dec 31st 1998 - Jan 1st 1999 storm the surface low tracked way NW of us.
There was a very cold Arctic airmass in place and we still changed to sleet.
That was the best chance for 15-20 inches widespread in our lifetimes and likely modern St Louis history.
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Post by unclesam6 on Jan 14, 2020 12:24:25 GMT -6
I'm not even a fan of hockey but friv's got me hyped.
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Post by mccarthb on Jan 14, 2020 12:30:19 GMT -6
3224 posts.. Time for a new thread for the new year and weekend weather ahead! JMO
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Post by unclesam6 on Jan 14, 2020 12:31:17 GMT -6
3224 posts.. Time for a new thread for the new year and weekend weather ahead! JMO Chris has one in the works. |
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jan 14, 2020 12:32:23 GMT -6
I'm not even a fan of hockey but friv's got me hyped. No better time than now to jump on the blues bandwagon |
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Post by weatherj on Jan 14, 2020 12:40:36 GMT -6
The Dec 31st 1998 - Jan 1st 1999 storm the surface low tracked way NW of us. There was a very cold Arctic airmass in place and we still changed to sleet. That was the best chance for 15-20 inches widespread in our lifetimes and likely modern St Louis history. Hmm..I'm not saying you're wrong, but my recollection was that the surface low had a track from near Memphis NNE to Champaign, IL. I know it ended up further NW than progged. |
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Post by Snowman99 on Jan 14, 2020 12:41:34 GMT -6
Looking more and more like we get into a nw dry cold flow. Never fails. Warm and wet with flooding rains to cold and dry with possible clippers..staying mostly to out northeast, lol.
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Post by Lovableweatherguy TROY,MO on Jan 14, 2020 12:46:18 GMT -6
Looking more and more like we get into a nw dry cold flow. Never fails. Warm and wet with flooding rains to cold and dry with possible clippers..staying mostly to out northeast, lol. Yep, I seen that. Looks to get fairly zonal after this next system. Let me guess. Its time for the atmosphere to take a break. Haha. |
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Post by maddogchief on Jan 14, 2020 12:50:44 GMT -6
Looking more and more like we get into a nw dry cold flow. Never fails. Warm and wet with flooding rains to cold and dry with possible clippers..staying mostly to out northeast, lol. If you follow Dave’s rule of 3, there should be one more storm after this one. Or maybe this one is the third. Who knows. |
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Post by maddogchief on Jan 14, 2020 12:52:55 GMT -6
Also, the cold looks to relax a little by midweek next week with some, like 2 flakes of precip coming in and then temps crash once again. I’m fine with the cold temps after this weekend because deer season will finally be closed.
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Post by Snowman99 on Jan 14, 2020 13:14:39 GMT -6
Looking more and more like we get into a nw dry cold flow. Never fails. Warm and wet with flooding rains to cold and dry with possible clippers..staying mostly to out northeast, lol. If you follow Dave’s rule of 3, there should be one more storm after this one. Or maybe this one is the third. Who knows. I thought that had to do with storms in quick succession, not a week apart. |
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Jan 14, 2020 13:21:46 GMT -6
I work for the St. Louis Blues. So I am at every game. A few things I noticed: 3. We recently recieved new electronic dashers courtesy of the NHL they sent them to 3 franchises. Boston Stlouis Washington As someone who has only a superficial knowledge and interest in hockey what are "dashers?" |
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Jan 14, 2020 13:40:45 GMT -6
Another volcanic eruption today. This time on an uninhabited island in the Galapagos. No idea of how big or how much ash.
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Post by STGOutdoors on Jan 14, 2020 13:42:14 GMT -6
As much as it pains me to say it, I don't think there's any way Pietrangelo is back next year. Doug Armstrong was very motivated to sign Faulk for a reason.
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Post by ElburnDave on Jan 14, 2020 14:05:45 GMT -6
I work for the St. Louis Blues. So I am at every game. A few things I noticed: 3. We recently recieved new electronic dashers courtesy of the NHL they sent them to 3 franchises. Boston Stlouis Washington As someone who has only a superficial knowledge and interest in hockey what are "dashers?" They're just like dancers, prancers and vixen, of course! I believe they are the lower boards just above the ice on a hockey rink. |
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jan 14, 2020 14:43:33 GMT -6
Dry air is a beast on the NAM. Otherwise, we would be looking at a healthy hit of snow on the frontside  |
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Post by mizzou93 on Jan 14, 2020 14:54:04 GMT -6
As someone who has only a superficial knowledge and interest in hockey what are "dashers?" They're just like dancers, prancers and vixen, of course! I believe they are the lower boards just above the ice on a hockey rink. Yes. They are the non glass portion of the boards. The part with the ads on them hence the electric ones which can show different ads. |
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